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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Trackback from Bowen:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;TeledyN: NNTP//RSS: Usenet Returns......&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:56:25 -0400</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Trackback from Bowen:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;TeledyN: NNTP//RSS: Usenet Returns......&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:50:01 -0400</pubDate>
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 <title>Gary Lawrence Murphy points to</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Trackback from Figby.com:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Gary Lawrence Murphy points to a beta RSS gateway that will allow you to read RSS feeds in an old-school NNTP newsreader. If this caught on, he points out that NNTP would solve many of the bandwidth p.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2003 02:47:38 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Figby.com</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.ethercat.com/usenetnews.gif&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; height=&quot;180&quot; width=&quot;250&quot; class=&quot;right&quot; /&gt; I probably knew about this before, but knowing about it and actually taking &lt;a title=&quot;Methodize.org :: View topic - Demo server online&quot; href=&quot;http://www.methodize.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15&quot;&gt;an nntp//rss aggregator&lt;/a&gt; for a spin are very different propositions.  I can tell you how &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RSS &lt;/span&gt;being rebundled as Usenet can help save bandwidth by sharing feeds and pushing loads out to the network edges, or how even personal aggregators might obey all the &lt;a href=&quot;//mt/archives/001553.html&quot; title=&quot;RFC 2616&quot;&gt;proper rules&lt;/a&gt; to help spare blogs from drowning in their own feed serving.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But that&#039;s just talk. What you &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; need to do is tune your best most favourite Usenet newsreader to port 119 on &lt;code&gt;demo.methodizesolutions.com&lt;/code&gt;, download their demo list of pop-blog pseudo-groups, and then find out first hand why the world doesn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt; any fancy desktop &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RSS &lt;/span&gt;aggregators ... &lt;em&gt;because we already have them&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Usenet Reborn&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://web.media.mit.edu/~kkarahal/loom/&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://web.media.mit.edu/~kkarahal/loom/small-threads.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; height=&quot;202&quot; width=&quot;266&quot; class=&quot;left&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; And it makes sense: Usenet was designed to solve the load problems of email mailing lists by mediating redundant one-to-many buck-shot message transports through creating shared proxy cachings for local area network patterns of one to a few and from those out to the subscribing many.  &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.mcfedries.com/Graphics/usenet01.gif&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; height=&quot;233&quot; width=&quot;185&quot; class=&quot;right&quot; /&gt; As with Usenet or even &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HTTP &lt;/span&gt;proxy caching, each &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ISP &lt;/span&gt;caches only the subset of groups requested by their subscribers, perhaps adding their own internal feeds --- in so doing, they reduce the bitstream demands on the originating server so instead of 200 &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;DSISP &lt;/span&gt;customers each taking the entire feedster feed only to read 3 items each, the one &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ISP&lt;/span&gt;-hosted (or community hosted e.g. Userland) caching edge server proxies the fetch as a peudo-Usenet group, redistributing it for their other 199 customers until the source flips on the Conditional-GET.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Blogs cut their bandwidth strains, readers get easy access over mature well-known tools, &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ISP&lt;/span&gt;s have a perk to draw customers --- Everybody wins.  What&#039;s more, the content is by-definition time-sensitive (everyone wants only today&#039;s content) and, leveraging the existing technologies, there&#039;s additional opportunities for extra-blogular commentary purely over the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;NNTP &lt;/span&gt;(also blogdex link count or other reader rating metrics, technorati cosmos cross-refs and other semi-auto meta-data) &lt;u&gt;and&lt;/u&gt;, at no extra cost, we&#039;d gain the associated comment-spam protectorate of the NoCEm services.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;small&gt;Hmmm .... perhaps no accident the common parlance calls the feed aggregators as simply &#039;&lt;i&gt;newsreaders&lt;/i&gt;&#039; --- and maybe a future nntp/rss bridge software might include the smarts to crawl downloaded pages and thread comments and fold in trackbacks as cross-posts?&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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 <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2003 07:55:49 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>mrG</dc:creator>
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