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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know, maybe I&#039;m just an old hair-trigger alarmist prude, but it really irked me when a trip to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1882114981/002-1344079-0068010&quot;&gt;the Amazon page for Richard Stallman&#039;s new book&lt;/a&gt; included the following blurb: &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Customers who shopped for this item also wear:&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Clean Underwear from Amazon&#039;s Eddie Bauer Store&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ladybug Rain Boots from Amazon&#039;s Nordstrom Store&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Suede Headwraps from Amazon&#039;s International Male Store&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cheetah Print Slippers from Amazon&#039;s Old Navy Store&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cheetah Print Slippers?  They actually sold enough of &lt;u&gt;either&lt;/u&gt; (no offense, Richard) to draw a &lt;em&gt;meaningful&lt;/em&gt; correllation??? Maybe it&#039;s just me, but I find this sort of cross-product sales just a tad non-sequiteur, bordering on offensive, so I wrote to Amazon and CC&#039;d Richard:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;To: feedback@amazon.com&lt;p&gt;OK, I am no marketing genius, &lt;em&gt;but&lt;/em&gt; ...&lt;img align=&quot;right&quot; alt=&quot;lens&quot; src=&quot;/mt/archives/lens.jpg&quot; width=&quot;251&quot; height=&quot;240&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt; it would seem to my naive eye that (a) what someone reads is largely irrelevent to their tastes in clothing (b) these particular choices (other than clean underwear) are not &#039;typical&#039; of RMS/Lessig fans and (c) to someone unfamiliar with the author, the articles of clothing cited would tend to dissuade them from buying the book.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At the very least, I would think just about any author would be upset to discover they are being exploited to sell underwear. Maybe not, but as someone with a small brain when it comes to marketing, that&#039;s my gut reaction ...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I expected a polite customer-service reply like, &quot;dear customer, we were testing something out and it didn&#039;t work so we retracted it,&quot; but what I got instead really surprised me: &lt;b&gt;Amazon denied that it had happened!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Amazon went so far as to insist I was seeing things! &lt;em&gt;twice!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;After I investigated the book ... I was unable to find any reference to the items that you referred to in your previous message. (GaryW)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; and when I reminded them that I&#039;d sent the screen capture in my first message: &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I have researched and found that our web site dosen&#039;t show any information regarding which you wrote about in your previous email. (NikhilM)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; well &lt;em&gt;dah--&lt;/em&gt; obviously someone yanked it dontchya think maybe?  So I wrote back again, CC&#039;ing other depts (which often gets escalated results ;) and asking if they were perhaps suggesting that I was lying ;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img align=&quot;left&quot; alt=&quot;tristan glassed&quot; src=&quot;/mt/archives/tristglassed.jpg&quot; width=&quot;241&quot; height=&quot;230&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is what came back:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you for writing to Amazon.com&lt;p&gt;I have reviewed our previous correspondence with you, and I offer my sincere apologies for any misunderstandings thus far.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I want to sincerely apologize inconvenience or the disappointment may have caused.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Please know, theses recommendation and features are based on the general purchasing trends at our site and it is not personal recommendation from the Amazon.  I apologize if you found these recommendation unsuitable.&lt;/p&gt;Mala G&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;... which suggests Amazon now &lt;em&gt;admits&lt;/em&gt; using Richard Stallman to peddle underwear, and &lt;em&gt;they are actually proud of it!&lt;/em&gt;  Last I checked, though, they weren&#039;t so proud of it to have re-instated the clothing recommendation sections on that page.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I haven&#039;t heard from RMS through all this, but if it was &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; book, I&#039;d at least demand they cross-link to &lt;a title=&quot;... or something similar!...&quot; href=&quot;http://www.trashy.com/&quot;&gt;a Victoria&#039;s Secret&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <category domain="http://blog.teledyn.com/taxonomy/term/6">the skin of culture</category>
 <pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2002 10:39:57 -0500</pubDate>
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