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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Matt Jones has an entry today &lt;a title=&quot;matt jones | work &amp; thoughts&quot; href=&quot;http://www.blackbeltjones.com/work/mt/archives/000484.html&quot;&gt;Bridging the bubbles&lt;/a&gt; proposing a model for how we find new vistas, and thoughts about what happens when we don&#039;t.  &lt;img align=&quot;right&quot; src=&quot;http://www.greaterdemocracy.org/images/politicalbooks.jpg&quot;/&gt;I&#039;m piqued by it because it&#039;s the same issue naively addressed back in the Open and Cola days of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opencola.com&quot;&gt;OpenCOLA&lt;/a&gt;: OC Folders wanted to bridge what you know to what you&#039;d like, to find new favourite stuff (music mostly) you&#039;d never heard before.  Seems to me Matt&#039;s &quot;bridges&quot; are Cory&#039;s &quot;Super-recommenders&quot;, so is it possible to gain any &lt;em&gt;useful&lt;/em&gt; predictive knowledge from these charts?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s one problem:  What if these paths are not symmetrical or even bi-directional? Matt ties his story to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sylloge.com/personal/2002_11_01_s.html#85316661&quot;&gt;Sylloge&lt;/a&gt; brief muse on the richness of interaction pathways in social group topologies and this suggests bridges may be rare for very good socio-geological reasons; some other blogroll-context models of the same idea show up (with many good references) in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.synesthesia.co.uk/blog/archives/knowledge_management/000121.php&quot;&gt;Julian&#039;s Synesthesia&lt;/a&gt; and Ton&#039;s thoughts on &lt;a href=&quot;http://interdependent.blogspot.com/2002_12_29_interdependent_archive.html#86871286&quot;&gt;who you know &lt;i&gt;vs&lt;/i&gt; who knows you&lt;/a&gt; in the now blogfamous &lt;a href=&quot;http://radio.weblogs.com/0114726/2003/01/02.html#a176&quot;&gt;Mayfield, Krebs and Kaminski study of Ryse.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Multidimensional pathways have traditionally and misleadingly represented network sites like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ryse.com&quot;&gt;ryse.com&lt;/a&gt; as just lines; Sylloge says each may be longer in one direction than in another; Ton notes differences in inbound and outbound horizons, and how relationship maps change over time.  I might &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; 13000 names in my rolodex, but how many have me in theirs, and  how many even remember who I am?  The bubble/bridge chart suddenly becomes a lot more than just another topic-map &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kartoo.com/flash.php3?vis=1&amp;langue=en&amp;ca=&amp;l=&amp;m=&amp;fd=&amp;bo=&amp;tr=&amp;version=4&quot;&gt;Kartoo.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;who links where&lt;/i&gt; blogroll.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sure where this is taking me. I know where I want to go is into a new glittering cave, but our map is suddenly very complex.  Even a &quot;&lt;i&gt;no comment just the links&lt;/i&gt;&quot; weblog like &#039;&lt;a href=&quot;/mt/linton/archives/000453.html&quot;&gt;his blog&lt;/a&gt;&#039; isn&#039;t really just links, it&#039;s implicit commentary, it&#039;s a list of &lt;i&gt;recommended&lt;/i&gt; links that bridge several bubble horizons; it&#039;s the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/mt/archives/000290.html#000290&quot;&gt;people who bought this also bought ..&lt;/a&gt;&quot; marketing idea.  His links add associative meta-data, and the added links (and any links to his blog) start to weigh on the Google ranks -- the new paths start to warp old paths exascerbating Ton&#039;s dynamic map charting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img align=&quot;left&quot; alt=&quot;pepsis.jpg&quot; src=&quot;/mt/archives/pepsis.jpg&quot; width=&quot;230&quot; height=&quot;217&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe where it&#039;s leading is not so much social career development as just a visual model of &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; blogging works, or maybe they are one in the same. The bridge itself may be an accident of happenstance and bandwidth, but to grow ourselves, we&#039;re enticed (or compelled) to test each path for inter-networked recommender bridges out from our own local space (Sylloge says these best-bridges may not be the nearest or even in a straight line).  Seeking Matt&#039;s &lt;i&gt;glittering cave moments&lt;/i&gt;, we cross over those bridges we find, and &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; of us become (by accident or design) new bridges for others.  What&#039;s important, the effect we want, arises not from the number of bridge paths, but by their &lt;em&gt;quality&lt;/em&gt;, and it&#039;s a totally &lt;em&gt;subjective&lt;/em&gt; quality, and therefore unpredictable. Far from the &lt;i&gt;networking is everything&lt;/i&gt; approach of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ecademy.com&quot;&gt;Thomas Power&lt;/a&gt; (although, by sheer mass of numbers, yes, monster-trolling will catch some good fish too), perhaps a more efficient strategy may be a second-order goal to &lt;em&gt;cultivate&lt;/em&gt; relationships with &lt;i&gt;connected&lt;/i&gt; (bridging) individuals to discover what bubbles they know but also to suss out our personal metrics of the &lt;em&gt;qualities&lt;/em&gt; of their knowledge; as with sex, &lt;i&gt;quality&lt;/i&gt; beats &lt;i&gt;quantity&lt;/i&gt; (just so long as the &lt;amazon keyword=&quot;woody allen&quot; line=&quot;dvd&quot;&gt;quantity does not approach zero&lt;/amazon&gt; ;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Confucius said, &quot;&lt;i&gt;The way out is by the door.  Why is it no one will &lt;u&gt;use&lt;/u&gt; this method?&lt;/i&gt;&quot; but what he didn&#039;t say is that some doors are better than others.  What I think we&#039;re learning here is that the quality is not so easy to see in advance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The more I think about the knot of this tangle, we have a nice diagram, but are we really any closer to bridging any bubbles or even knowing which path might lead to a useful bridge? That Amazon diagram (shown here) gets so stretched and twisted by link metrics and &lt;em&gt;apparent&lt;/em&gt; metrics that we&#039;re right back at my &lt;a href=&quot;/mt/archives/000271.html#000271&quot;&gt;earlier troubles with trust&lt;/a&gt;. We&#039;re back to clicking on pure blind faith.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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