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    Those Old Combo Orks

    "You don't see products like this anymore" -- I found our first Combo Ork books on GNUtellaNet a few years back; today we set out with the boys to busk the Farmer's Market with three sets, and it was a great time, a bit of New Orleans, a bit of Swing, a bit of Great American Songbook, great stuff. So now I'm on the hunt for more, and while we do find one or two strays (incomplete sets) on Amazon or eBay now and then, it's not owning the antiques we seek, but just the information they hold. That's how I found this 4 years back post by David Marriott where I dared to knock at the door of a whole cosmos ...
    combo-ork013A mainstay of the 1950s, these books gave you a full arrangement for three horns and rhythm on one page, and about fifteen tunes in each book. You don't see products like this anymore, but I'm trying to get a complete collection of the Robbins Combo Ork books. I've got most of them, but I'm missing an Eb book for No. 1-4; Bb and Eb for the Waltz Favorites, Mamboettes and the Gem book. I'm also discovering multitudes of other publishers, but I'm trying to stick with what I know
    via redraspus.com

    Click that book cover and you'll enter David's flickr set of 32 combo ork covers spanning genres from Dixieland to Mambo, Bluegrass and Old-Tyme Country, Swing and yes, even some classical (the Lewis Book has a very nice Blue Danube but it seems no one can find the C-instrument book!) For those of us who dig this sort of thing, this is precisely the sort of thing we dig.

    Naturally I have written to David in hopes of doing some trades, I'm hoping to find the 'Matt Matlak' posting in his comments too (once you get past the spammers) as he's also, like us, collecting the scans. I'm hoping there are more out there too because these books are a great way to bring the boys into jazz, not the pre-fab scripted jazz that fills so many of the books in print or the fixed way-out changes like the Aebersold heads, but the real thing, they way it was played, here's your road-map lads, let's fill in the spacetime, stretch out the fabric and make it sing! That's the real deal, really. And we had a great time doing it.

    I know there are other collections around, I hear legends of them. A local legend tells of how several local territory bands, those who stuck with it into the modern age, chipped in together and purchased a CD containing what sounds very much like it was these sort of combo-ork charts; they're said to have paid a considerable sum for the disk, but that it was a massive collection -- the story as it came to me sadly ends when the last known Keeper of the Disk passed away, and when asked by his former bandmates, his widow had no knowledge of any CD of treasures. 'Tis the stuff of Adventure ...

    And yes, I have tried Google, and Bing, and Clusty and Fileshare searchings on Rapidshare, 4shared and all the rest ... what you'll find there is what we have now as I expect many of the early-adopting fileshare-savvy bands people out there did exactly as I did; it is a general Law of Filesharing that any localized collection bifurcates through the network until eventually everyone has everything reachable. So if there are any more of these out there in PDF or TIFF or any other scanned format, they are very likely either in the dark-web of password-gated collections like myanonamous.net (where you'll find my collection) or they are written out to a CD and sitting silently on some shelf somewhere.

    Which is a shame because this is good stuff, the sort that fills the air with joy and so my quest continues to fill out our band book as best we can with more. Any and all leads are most welcome.

    • 8 October 2011
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    5 months ago garym @teledyn responded:
    garym @teledyn
    Well I just answered my own question stupendously! On a whim of googling the publisher, out pops a search-summary teaser alluding to 'files' at the most amazing resource for these sorts of things, http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/bigbandcharts, and within seconds I have more friends who know more combo ork resources than I really may ever know what to do with! Ain't this internet wonderful? Sometimes, indeed it is, and I nearly woke the boys up here now at 1am to show them a new take on Tiger Rag that's going to really wet their whistles.
    4 months ago Matt responded:
    I'm the "Matt" that you are looking for. Send me an e-mail - let's talk. I have several Orks, but I'm intested in filling in the gaps. I can also share some very help thoughts on the Yahoo Bigbandcharts groups you mentioned.
    4 months ago garym @teledyn responded:
    garym @teledyn
    Hi Matt! Turns out I don't get access to your email on Posterous ("We're planning that" say the devs ;) so you can email me at the obvious extension of taking my username here and adding .com to the end of it ;)
    4 months ago COwala responded:
    Hi mrG, thanks for your post. I couldnt leave another post there, very strange. However, great story and motivation above, love to hear more.
    Yes, would be great to get in touch. Am not very experienced if leaving a complete email address here is ok. Have split it up its habenicht-at-mweb then please add .co.za for country code. Right, thats South Africa. Looking forward to getting in touch!
    4 months ago Finn responded:
    I have a large collections of Combo-orks. 24 complete set for Bb, Eb, and C instruments. Also approx 40 different loose books. The box weighs approx 25lbs. Location is Burlington, Ontario. Any interest?
    4 months ago garym @teledyn responded:
    garym @teledyn
    Finn ... you're kidding me, right? 24 complete sets? Wow, that's great!

    So yeah, I'm interested! :) Trouble is, I'm not so sure I can afford them :( ... but I may know some folks who might have the interest AND the means, and maybe that's enough? Can you send me some details? You can email me at garym at this domain (teledyn.com)

    4 months ago COwala responded:
    whow, I'd love to have these books, wish I could, but the ocean is wide, the postage massive and the Rand crazy weak to the Dollar. Garym best of luck, hope you get them!
    4 months ago Matt responded:
    
    I do have some interest. Would you be able to send a list of the books.
    I live in Cleveland, Ohio - maybe I could convince my wife to take a weekend trip up to Ontario.
    How much are you asking for the lot? Are they scanned in as PDF files? Would you be interested in just selling the PDFs?
    I'm actually more interested in the music itself more than the historic/antique value of the books.
        Matt
    4 months ago garym @teledyn responded:
    garym @teledyn

    Same here, I'd scan them myself if I had to! :) I'm already in Ontario, although quit far from Burlington (Owen Sound) but I do know folks in Toronto if a drop point would be useful, and certainly Matt, you'd be on my share list (COwala too of course)

    I'm subbing in for a band this weekend where I first encountered combo orks, although theirs are ancient photocopies; I expect some interest there too.

    3 months ago Finn responded:

    Hi Guys:<o:p></o:p>

    Your interest made me catalogue all my books.<o:p></o:p>

    It turns out that there are 146 books.  <o:p></o:p>

    About 30 sets have the Bb, C, Eb books. Most of these sets also have a second Bb book.<o:p></o:p>

    The attached file has the details.<o:p></o:p>

    These books are original books, not scanned or photocopies.<o:p></o:p>

    Majority of front pages are marked up to different degrees.<o:p></o:p>

    About 24 of the sets are colour coded with tape. Yellow for Bb.  Pink for C. Green for Eb.  Second set of Bb are blue.<o:p></o:p>

    It made it easier when transporting to a gig.<o:p></o:p>

    I am looking to sell the lot all at once.<o:p></o:p>

    I am thinking about $250 for the whole set obo.<o:p></o:p>

    Regards,<o:p></o:p>

    Finn<o:p></o:p>

    3 months ago Matt responded:
    I didn't recieve the attachment - would you be able to resend it to me
        Thanks,
                Matt
     
                mattmatlak@att.net

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